Goose Network - Deciphering Vicious Bloggers
If you are on my website, there is a good chance you’ve already come across a Goose network website, viciously pumping its own agenda, misinforming public about Gulen and the charter schools in the country. You already know their point of view and the lies hidden within, and I appreciate you visiting my website for true information, backed with facts and not goose feathers. I keep it real here, with real facts, real people, real stories. There is No honking or quacking here - a merit of Goose Network.
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Vanessa Kachadurian: Setting the Record Straight on a Cyber Harassment Poster Child
The title belongs to Bennet Kelley, the cyber lawyer who has recently won a well-deserved victory over Vanessa Kachadurian. Mr. Kelley, as one might expect, has been constantly attacked by Vanessa Kachadurian. As a result, he authored this statement that tells the truth about Vanessa Kachadurian.
I would like to quote some parts from this statement. In the meantime, you can find out some documents (such as this one) in Mr. Kelley’s statement:
“For the past few weeks, Vanessa Kachadurian (directly and under her many aliases such as armenianadoption) has made several dozen posts about this firm and myself that are completely false and has now begun to harass my business associates as well. While I am reluctant to dignify Kachadurian’s actions, particularly on the eve of her criminal trial, I want to plainly state the facts and, at the same time, explain why she has convinced me that we need legislative reform to address the issue of cyber harassment.”
Vanessa Kachadurian was a defendant in a cyber harassment case brought by an respected international adoption agency and its founder (who received the Congressional Angel in Adoption award) in light of years of abuse by Ms. Kachadurian. My clients never did business with Ms. Kachadurian, but became the focus of her venom once the half-Armenian Kachadurian’s own attempts at adoption failed.
“The Hopscotch case settled with a payment of $85,000 by Kachadurian’s insurer to Hopscotch.”
“This firm and Hopscotch considered the settlement to be a victory given the substantial payment made. Kachadurian recently has been declaring her self the victor in that matter but consider the following”:
- Kachadurian’s Motion to Dismiss: DENIED
- Kachadurian’s SLAPP Motion: DENIED
- Kachadurian’s Counterclaims: DISMISSED BY COURT WITHOUT MOTION
- Kachadurian’s Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings: DENIED
“Moreover, Kachadurian was clearly displeased with the settlement to the point that she attacked Plaintiff, co-counsel and myself once we got outside the office building. It seemed almost poetic that the case ended with Kachadurian spending the night in jail.”
“I have resolved cyber harassment cases involving convicted felons and even witches without incident. Since filing this case, however, I have become one of Ms. Kachadurian’s favorite targets through attacks such as a Twitter Page entitled “Bennet Kelley STFU;” then a bar complaint (dismissed), an attempt to obtain a restraining order against me for pursuing the case against her (denied) and ultimately death threats”
“I believe that Ms. Kachadurian is a classic example of a disturbed person who believes that there are no consequences for your actions on the Internet and who seems to take glee in her cruelty.These type of cases expose the limits of current law, since Kachadurian has smeared numerous companies and individuals both in the adoption space and beyond, but there was not sufficient incentive or means available to those who might otherwise take action. I have discussed reforms with academics and lawmakers that would involve the availability of civil penalties and recovery of attorneys fees for serial harassers such as Kachadurian (something I will flesh out more fully in a subsequent blog post).”
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Norwegian attacks stem from a new ideological hate
At times, with Dr. Kurt’s permission, I publish some of his articles. Here is the one I have just seen. More on the way soon…
“I will continue to write about fact-checking about Fethullah Gulen, but I got this article and was planning to re-publish. Entitled “Norwegian Attacks Stem from a New Ideological Hate”, it was written by Abraham Foxman, the National Director of ADL.In his article, published on Washington Post, he talks about the recent terrorist attack in Norway and the Islamophobia that has become very popular these days. He reminds us that, the Norvegian terrorist, in his long manifesto draws his inspiration from famous Islamophobics such as Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller and Brigitte Gabriel. Foxman’s description of this recent surge is very good:Growing numbers of people in Europe and the United States subscribe to this belief system; in some instances it borders on hysteria. Adherents of this ideological Islamophobia view Islam as an existential threat to the world, especially to the “West.”Moreover, they believe that leaders and governments in the Western world are consciously or unconsciously collaborating to allow Islam to “infiltrate” and eventually conquer democratic societies.Foxman goes on saying that we can identify the all the intellectuals and other people Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist, cited. Foxman also laments the so-called Zionist ideology of Breivik.One bizarre twist to Breivik’s warped worldview was his pro-Zionism — his strongly expressed support for the state of Israel. It is a reminder that we must always be wary of those whose love for the Jewish people is born out of hatred of Muslims or Arabs.This article reminds me another article, Islamophobia Network Targets Top Performing American Schools, written by Michael Shank on the Huffington Post. Here is what Mr. Shank had to say about so-called Gulen Charter Schools phenomena:Now, targeted discrimination aimed at the Turkish American community is centering on a Turkish educational effort, which was identified in CAP’s “Fear Inc” report. The new supposed Turkish threat to America: “Muslim Gulen schools, which [members of the Islamophobia network] claim would educate children through the lens of Islam and teach them to hate Americans”. The authors of the CAP report flatly reject this assertion, however, saying that the schools started by Turkish-American Fethullah Gulen are “nothing of the sort” and that “they are a product of moderate Turkish Muslim educators who want a ‘blend of religious faith and largely western curriculum’.”Looks like, as long as the hate group is funded by the wealthy non-profits, they will keep on posting their hate everywhere on the internet.” -
Gulen charter schools
Why are these students smiling? Because they love their school and proud of being alumnus of Horizon SA. Some still call these schools as gulen charter schools. Why don’t they ask the children about what they think all about this? I am sure that none of these students even heard of Gulen’s name. We should stop here and think awhile.
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The Ultimate Proof that Ozgur Cengiz is Vanessa Kachadurian
Since I published the facts about Vanessa, I have always come to believe that Ozgur Cengiz is nobody but Vanessa Kachadurian. When you prove this connection, you also prove that she is also that infamous “Turgay”.
On November 13, Ozgur Cengiz sent an interesting tweet where (s)he talks about a renovated church in Armenia. But the tweet itself was interesting. Check it out:
You see Vanessa’s name in Ozgur’s tweet? Ozgur Cengiz only tweets about so-called Gulen Charter Schools and Turkey. But we see Vanessa’s name, a short sentence, a short link and something (probably automated) related to Word Press.
When you click this short link, it takes you to Vanessa’s blog. In case she deletes that post in her blog, here is the picture:
Don’t try to look for that tweet anymore. It is already gone, but thanks to screenshot technology, you can save any picture on your computer’s screen in the blink of an eye. I guess Vanessa somehow linked her other Twitter account (Ozgur Cengiz) to one of her personal blogs and the result is a catastrophe for her.
As I always say, humans err and Vanessa errs, too. Especially when you try to hide the truth and do sneaky things.
At the end of the day, history has repeated itself and I am glad that I showed Vanessa’s true colors!
Hey Vanessa… Now, you can start cussing at me on your Twitter account(s) as usual.
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Vanessa Kachadurian Loses the Cyber Harassment Lawsuit
I finally got the good news: Vanessa Kachadurian, the insidious blogger that attacks the top-performing charter schools throughout America, has lost the lawsuit that was filed to her by an adoption firm named Hopscotch a couple of years ago. The law firm “Internet Law Center”, with regard to this lawsuit, issued a press release on November 15, 2011.
You should definitely take a look the full text of the press release, but I am also going to make a couple of comments on this meaningful victory against Vanessa Kachadurian.
Here is the second paragraph of the press release:
“Hopscotch and its founder Robin Sizemore, filed suit against Kachadurian in federal court in Fresno in December 2009 in response to a vicious cyber-smear campaign that began in 2006. The plaintiffs were merely one of several adoption and educational institutions to be targeted for abuse by Kachadurian under multiple identities.”
I think the last part of the paragraph is crucial, because the press release implicitly mentions Vanessa’s shameless attacks on various American charter schools. I predict that this lawsuit can constitute an example for those schools. If I were in the shoes of those schools, I would definitely file a lawsuit against Vanessa Kachadurian, but I do not think they will ever attempt to do that unless Vanessa is taken seriously by some people.
Let us also hear from Bennet Kelley, the founder of Internet Law Center, who won this lawsuit against Vanessa:
“It is a gutsy move for a small non-profit like Hopscotch to say ‘enough’ and take on someone like Kachadurian who can devastate a small business,” said Internet Law Center founder Bennet Kelley. This is especially true when, Kelley added, “cyber abuse often escalates online and leads to offline threats of violence in over one in four cases according to data compiled by WHO@ (www.haltabuse.org).”
“Small victories like these collectively send an important message that the internet is no longer the ‘Wild, Wild West’ and that you can and will be held accountable for your actions.”
Bennet is 100% right. People like Vanessa Kachadurian hide themselves under many fake nicknames and they attack innocent people and organizations just because they hate the nationality of people working at these organizations. When they are confronted or their tricks are revealed, this time they defend themselves by playing the “Freedom of Speech” card. In the example of Vanessa Kachadurian, is it obvious that Vanessa is a xenophobic Armenian, who hates Turks and Azerbaijanis. When you have that background picture on Twitter, it means that you are xenophobic:
Notice that the “eagle” has Turkey and Azerbaijan in its claws.
You might wonder if it is bad to defame other people. Of course, it is. I am personally a fervent supporter of freedom of speech, but your freedom could transgress the limits to the extent that it sets the freedom and honor of other people at naught.
For example, we have ADL (Anti-Defamation League) since 1913 that defends the rights of Jewish people. If defamation were to be something good, this organization would have never been founded.
To long story short, from now on, all members of Goose Network should be careful when attacking and defaming innocent people.
Justice prevails sooner or later.
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Vanessa Kachadurian Posing as a Parent!
I have recently received a message in which Vanessa Kachadurian is disguising herself like a parent and she tries to collect so-called evidence for her blogs. Let me first show you the screenshot of her attempt:
Remember this e-mail starting with Salesa1? Looks like Vanessa used it almost 18 months ago in order to deceive the administration at Magnolia Charter Schools in California. Since, Vanessa Kachadurian is a Fresno resident, she naturally does some sort of phishing activity by disguising herself like a parent. (She does the same thing in her Harmony Parent Truth blog. Please refer to my previous postings on this issue.) Even that two-line sentence clearly reflects Vanessa’s style.
I am not surprised by such a fake e-mail. That is the merit of Vanessa Kachadurian.
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Have the Fundings Been Cut?
This time last year, I published an important article about the finances of Goose Network and other hate-filled websites. In that article I was proving that the websites who were sunning a number of ads on Google had to invest a great deal of money:
Below you clearly see that Meforum currently runs 329 different ads on Google. As webmasters say, on average one spends at least $500-600 per month for an ad. Multiply 500 by 329 and you get $164,500 per month !! Even if you say they spend $100 per add, it ends up to $32,900 per month! Whatever the real number is, it raises concerns of why someone would spend this much on racist and hate oriented ads.
How about today’s picture? It has lately been changed a lot:
Can you see the difference? Right now, they don’t run any ads anymore. Why do you think so? I think, especially after CAP’s report, they don’t have the courage to spend money on web issues in order to defame people. Besides, they must also think that they have given enough harm to the people and organizations they attacked.
The money is now given to the “real people” rather than virtual reality. Vanessa Kachadurian, Bill Thacker, the owner of CASILIPS (a fake organization run by …) must be given substantial amount of money in order to attack top-performing American charter schools.
People need “bread” to take home.
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Funny Tweets from Vanessa Kachadurian and Other Goose Network Members
First of all, I am glad that my findings about Vanessa Kachadurian enabled some positive reactions among the charter school supporters. I got positive feedback from some people I have never corresponded before. The common point of the feedback was the people’s wish to kick trickery people out of the field of education. Those trickery people like Vanessa Kachadurian need to deal with the adoption issues instead of 24/7 defamation.
I have been actively using my Twitter account in the last few days and I have witnessed sometimes funny and sometimes pathetic situations on the side of Goose Network members. Looks like Vanessa Kachadurian got very furious at my discovery about her. On her tweets, she first attempts to deny the fact she is operating behind all those blogs, later on she counter-attacks to me to the extent that she cusses and then writes very rude things. Hey Vanessa, try to keep a civil tongue in your head! By the way, Bill Thacker, Vanessa’s bosom friend also opened a Twitter account after I started using mine and he wrote his very first tweet to me! What an honor…
Let’s move step by step to see hilarious actions by “lofty” Goose Network members:
As can be seen above, Vanessa first begs me to stop using her name, because according to Vanessa there was another (!) person who was posing as her. Should I believe? Even a four-year-old kid would not believe this. Besides, this is what Vanessa did when she used her enemy’s name in some of her comments (see my first article about Vanessa). Then comes the confession part:
She tries to be sarcastic here, but she can’t even do that. When asked about giving Aland Mizell’s book to Congressman in California, she had to admit what she did:
There were more tweets between Vanessa and I, but you can check all these tweets by yourselves as long as they are not deleted.
She goes too far to claim that Dr. Kurt is her friend. I bet she has never seen Dr. Kurt in her life.
She first thinks that I am Muslim, and then claims that she has many “Islamic friends”. Remember, on Soda Head website, she was writing pages of defamatory comments about Islam. But she does not even know how to say “Muslim friend”, but says “Islamic friend”. Moreover, in the subsequent tweet she said “your English is bad”. Your English is poor for an Armenian who finished high school in Fresno, California.
As can be seen, she started cussing at me and she thinks that I am working at a school. Hey Vanessa! This is actually what you do everyday. Sitting at home and defaming, insulting and cussing people 24/7.
This is the part where Vanessa goes beyond the limits by speaking rude, but I did not give the expected or anticipated answer (the answer that should be given to such a person). I could have easily silenced Vanessa with one sentence (hint:”a photo of certain person”), but I didn’t do that. In my first article about Vanessa Kachadurian, I didn’t even publish her ads on a dating website where she tries to describe herself as a 40-year-old person (I still have the screenshots), because it is beyond proper behavior.
I might have deciphered the ugly face of Vanessa Kachadurian, but I never hacked her website or stole her information. All links in my first article about Vanessa can be found online. Everything is legal. That is why I am not scared of her.
Let’s move on to Bill Thacker. He opened a Twitter account and wrote his first tweet to me:
Check out his Twitter account, and you will see this as his first ever tweet unless he decides to delete it.
As can be seen above, Bill Thacker added a lot of “Anonymous” Twitter users so that they could attack or harass me. He claims that I am attacking free speech. I don’t attack anything poor Bill. I “decipher” the deceptive actions of people. Besides, I do not harass any women including Vanessa Kachadurian. As can be seen above, she harasses and cusses me.
Bill Thacker begs the anonymous guys to follow him, but it looks like nobody gives a flip to Bill. Right now, he is not followed by those guys. He wishes he could!
Anyway, my last a few days have been very funny thanks to these hilarious and pathetic tweets of Goose Network members.
I will keep you updated once they tweet more for me.
P.S: In her personal Twitter account Vanessa Kachadurian and some other Goose Network members are blocking me. Sorry guys, I did not mean to scare you so much!
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The Aftermath of the Exposure
A few days ago, as you might know, I deciphered Vanessa Kachadurian as the new member of Goose Network member. Since then, I have been receiving commendation from various blogs supporting charter school movement in America including from this mysterious blogger. Even Dr. Kurt penned a brief article entitled “On Vanessa Kachadurian and Goose Network”. I am really honored to be mentioned by such a distinguished scholar.
As for Vanessa Kachadurian’s side, there was nothing new on the same day of my article and the next day. She was probably in shock for 48 hours. Then she started recovering. That can be seen in two ways:
First of all, after a 35-day absence (Were you dealing with your lawsuits Vanessa? Or were you on a vacation with the money you got from your bosses?) she decided to post on her Harmony Parent Truth blog. I checked if she has changed the inscription at the top of her blog, but no avail. She still claims that she served on the “Parent Association of a Harmony School in Texas”. I really wonder how you do that Vanessa while residing in Fresno, California. You graduated from a high school in Fresno and I doubt if you have ever been to Texas. Anyway, looks like my latest exposure has become a wake-up call for you and you started throwing your mud again. Welcome back…
The second reaction came from Ozgur Cengiz, the Turkish-looking guy, another fake account of Vanessa. I see that she made changes on the bio part of her profile adding some Turkish sentences. What is more, she tweeted in Turkish for the first time! See below.
I decided to make a double check of those Turkish sentences tweeted by Ozgur Cengiz, a.k.a. Vanessa Kachadurian, if they were proper or not. Let’s see how Google Translate translates those sentences. I began with the one at the bottom:
Turkish: Türk Eğitim Sistemi yenilgi kokusu seviyorum.Neden Amerikan Carlyle grubu Gülen Şartı Okullar satın alıyor.
English Translation: The smell of defeat, the Turkish Education System seviyorum.Neden American Carlyle Group is buying Gulen Charter Schools.
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Turkish: Gülen Kiralama Okullar 60 dakika sürgünler segmenti
English Translation: Gulen Charter Schools 60 minutes segment of the shoots
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Turkish: Gülen Hareketi tekrar özlüyor, parlak grup ne de güçlü değildir.Yahudi lobi için dışarı bakmak.
English Translation: Again misses the Gülen movement, nor the powerful değildir.Yahudi bright lobby group to look out for.
One word: horrible! I think that would do enough. The translations reveal that Ozgur’s (I mean Vanessa’s) Turkish is very broken. It is like Chinese merchants trying to speak English.
But, this also proves that there is no actual person in the name of Ozgur Cengiz, but Vanessa. She is the person behind silly Harmony Parent Truth blog as well as fake personality of Ozgur Cengiz on Twitter.
Keep posting Vanessa! You are not aware that you go down deeper as you post.
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Vanessa the Loyal Goose Network Member
I am very proud to announce the new addition to Goose Network gang. This newest addition will probably complete the final missing part of the big puzzle, the Goose Network, who has been eagerly busy with hatching their eggs everywhere in the Cyber World. Ladies and gentlemen, here comes the final missing piece of the Goose Network puzzle: Vanessa Kachadurian.
(I am not going to put her picture here for privacy reasons. As for her full name, I think it is a fair treatment for her considering that she has by far published a number of people’s full names in her numerous blogs. Besides, I do not have the intention to make her a target in the eyes of other people. This shameless tactic belongs to Goose Network members, not me.)
When I first launched this blog more than a year ago, I published a list of Goose Network members. That list included Vanessa’s name as well. Yet since that time, her name has totally slipped out of my mind. Recently, I have decided to make a quick search after seeing her name on that list again. To my astonishment, the things I found out were really huge. I soon realized that I was encountering arguably the most enthusiastic member of the Goose Network. So much so that, many of my claims have proved me wrong on some issues. Now, I am both hoping to clarify my previous claims and add new stuff here. But one thing is clear: Vanessa Kachadurian is one of the most active members of the Goose Network and she is definitely on someone else’s payroll, because as you will see below, thanks to countless evidence, nobody would allocate such amount of time for something that is irrelevant (or not directly relevant) to one’s life.
Initially I took searching her name very lightly, but as I found new things, I got the motivation to continue and decipher more, because new information was in rapid succession.
The Crucial Information
For this, I decided to Google her name. Writing Vanessa Kachadurian Gulen (becuase she is one of the inventors of so-called Gulen Charter Schools concept , I came up with this comment. In case, the link is removed, you can see the picture below.
She (perhaps accidentally) wrote her name (Vanessa Kachadurian) at the bottom of her own comment, because in order to claim otherwise (that is the deliberate writing of her name) one has to be idiot to inscribe UtahMom on top of the page and then Fresno, California, along with the real name at the bottom. In that comment, I randomly took a sentence and made a quick copy-paste of it and came up with the same exact comment on different blogs and websites but this time under various nicknames such as MD Parent (!) and EducationTruth. It looks like she was becoming UtahMom, Maryland (or medical doctor) Parent or EducationTruth depending on the blog, news or the school she commented about.
She exactly writes the same comment and sometimes changes her nickname. I saw that she wrote the same comment on her Facebook page where she uses her real name in a slightly different way.
I also found out that she was using countless nicknames when attacking what she calls Gulen Charter Schools. She is also constantly giving links to many admiral ship websites, particularly “Charter School Watchdog” website and to her blogs whose link I am planning to provide below.
Her Facebook Adventures
On Facebook (as mentioned above), she has pages of comments along with… guess who? Bill Thacker of Arizona! Surprise surprise, right? Using a slightly different name (Vanoush Khatchaturyan) there, Vanessa has been using this discussion page for more than a year only to give links and write responses to another paid member of Goose Network, Mr. Thacker. Together, they filled like seven pages to defame charter schools. write unfounded things about them but if you actually copy and paste what they have written to a single Word page, it will take more than a hundred pages (actually 113 pages). In their comments they just support each other’s claims but they are not afraid to show their teeth to any “would-be intruders”. It is like this is their backyard to play in. I can’t help but admire their dedication. On another occasion, Vanessa comments on one of Bill Thacker’s posts by thanking him and acting as if she was the first time visitor and did not know much about the info Thacker provided.
Even on Facebook India she writes defamatory things about Erdogan, Gulen etc. She uses other Facebook websites in various languages again in order to represent her true Goose Network spirit. She actively uses ANCA (The Armenian National Committee of America) Grassroots. Such determination!
That is it? Just started! She utilizes her real Twitter account to inform people about some radio programs where Donna Garner was invited as a guest. There, hardliner Garner gives complete misinformation about so-called Gulen Charter Schools. Through her Twitter account, she also helps the Goose Network team defame American charter schools 24/7. Even in the midst of a hot genocide debate among fellow Armenians, she joins the debate with the sole purpose of writing only about Gulen and American charter schools. She sometimes goes too far to use the same aggressive rhetoric to the politicians in Hawaii. Like I said, she is so busy with the comments and other activism she puts on the web that even when there is no comment under any news of a not-so-much-visited webpage, she takes this opportunity to write the same things by employing the artifacts of her copy-paste mindset.
Lawsuits Against Vanessa
I will write more about this comment issue, but let’s turn to another significant detail about Vanessa. Making more search with her real name, I found out that some lawsuits were filed against Vanessa. For example, in one of them, she was harassing adoptive parents who have adopted through Hopscotch Adoptions, an adoption company, as well as other companies and individuals. She reportedly could not pass a home study and wasn’t able to adopt due to her serious mental illness. She is vindictive against anyone who has or wants to adopt. This info was given to me by a friend who got this information from another Armenian (Sonia Vigilante) whom Vanessa hates. However, ironically, Vannessa is not shy to use Sonia’s name (by making slight changes <SonaVigiliante> in her name) to write defamatory things about so-called Gulen Charter Schools. But she uses it only in Soda Head pages like this one. She even illegally uses Sonia’s name when writing a petition to the authorities in Hawaii in order to prevent the opening of a charter school there or she likes something on Facebook on behalf of Sonia. As mentioned above, there are also similar comments under very different-looking nicknames and aliases. Below are the some excerpts from the lawsuit document, which can be easily found on the Internet:
“On information and belief Kachadurian uses a number of online aliases and email addresses including, inter alia, AdoptNews@aol.com; AdoptResearch@aol.com; Armenlaw@aol.com; AttyEsq@advocate.com; DancerA1@aol.com; Eveonthego@aol.com; jrussell_jeffruss@yahoo.com; Laura Garabadian; LAWP@aol.com; limovaM@aol.com; Lisa; MRey@sbcglobal.net; Ruzanne; Salesa1@aol.com; and Wittyhye@yahoo.com.”
(I am not surprised that she has so many nicknames and e-mails. You will agree with me below)
“Plaintiffs Hopscotch Adoptions, Inc. (Hopscotch) and Robin Sizemore (Sizemore) bring this action to enjoin and seek damages from Defendant Vanessa Kachadurian (Kachadurian) for her continuing acts of harassment and cyber-smearing of both Hopscotch and Sizemore. These acts are part of an ongoing pattern of conduct against several international adoption service providers that dates back to at least 2005.”
“On information and belief, since at least 2004, Kachadurian unsuccessfully has sought to adopt a child through various international adoption agencies. This included a 2005 application to Across the World Adoptions (ATWA) in Pleasant Hill, California to adopt an Armenian child.”
“On information and belief, Kachadurian retaliated against ATWA after her application was declined by
a. Sending a series of harassing and/or annoying emails and packages to ATWA ;
b. vandalizing and defacing ATWA’s office by spray painting the Star of David on it;
c. vandalizing the home of ATWA’s Executive Director by flooding a portion of her property;
d. vandalizing the car of an ATWA employee by putting nails into her tires on at least two occasions; and
e. cyber-smearing ATWA with claims that it was a “virtual baby broker” and calling its Executive Director a “criminal,” “retard” and a “Jewish Princess [who] love[s] to take your money then lie to you.”“On information and belief, Kachadurian is of Armenian ancestry, and she disapproves of Armenian children being adopted by “odar’s” (a derogatory Armenian language term used by Kachadurian to refer to non-Armenians).”
Also, take a look at this presentation about Cyber Harassment. Interestingly, when we check out the tags of this page, we come across these words:
Isn’t it funny? This presentation by the law firm alone describes all the characteristics of Vanessa and this is of course no coincidence. Anyway, you can read more about the lawsuit in the file.
WHO IS TURGAY (TUR-GAY)?
Although I did publish something about the person operating behind this weird-looking picture, now I must confess that I was wrong. I thought this person who are posting all these defamatory blogs was a male and Turk, because it was what was said in that profile. It turned out that it was a female and an Armenian! Yes, it was nobody other than Vanessa. How did I arrive such a conclusion? I have plenty of evidence to prove it. Let’s first start with the profiles in both blogs. She says “journalist” in both blogs even though she does nothing more than “Watchdog” style journalism. Besides, her main job is with Smith Kline Beecham. Also, on the profile of Turgay, she considers herself a spy and when we read the above lawsuit, we see that this is a title that befits Vanessa. Yet, considering that she runs almost 15 blogs, a Twitter page, two Facebook pages and countless comments, I doubt she has an office-job. She probably works at home. You will also remember that when I first tried to save the above-picture to my computer, the words “Turkey Gay 3” appeared. Who would call Turkey a “gay”? Considering the historical relations, I assume that an Armenian like Vanessa is a perfect match for this. She was also referring Istanbul as “Istanbulsh*t”. Of course, this is not the only evidence. More to come below…
gulenfraud@gmail.com
This is the e-mail Vanessa provides on Turgay’s profile page. In case she deletes it, I took a screenshot. When you bring your mouse to the “email” on that profile page, an e-mail pops-up at the bottom of the page on the left side. This is the e-mail she gets information from her Goose Network friends. You can find many comments made by this e-mail under a number of different nicknames. Turan Akcam is one of them. On the other hand, Lauren Alexander uses Gulensfraud as her user name on Twitter and I know that Lauren is Vanessa herself.
More importantly, she uses this e-mail address along with fake Dr. titles such as Dr. Kaz Kaz (detailed info is given below about the magical word “Kaz”). Or she prefers Gerry Kanavan and Turkish News website to hatch her eggs.
Anyway, my main point to prove my case will be about the fact that Turgay and Vanessa are the same people and the comments that Vanessa puts everywhere on the web are almost facsimile of one other.
Vanessa’s Comments
My research about her comments can be grouped under two categories: comment-based and nickname-based. When I go with the former, it is the same comments under different aliases and nicknames, but if it is about the latter, it is different comments that come from the very same nickname. Of course, there are also few comments in which she (accidentally) used her real name! Now let’s see a few of her countless fake names.
RobJaro is one of her favorite names. For example, on a forum, she first talks about the movie Waiting for Superman and then as a second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth item she only talks about “Gulen Charter Schools” with various links.
On PBS website, with the same nickname, she writes a very long comment that bombs Severson, the author of the documentary. By the way, the comment section of this PBS documentary helps me a lot to prove my case, because it turned out that Vanessa actively operated on that page with various nicknames.
On Huffington Post she uses the same nickname again (RobJaro) only to repeat her same old story. There, I also found another nickname (AdoptTruth) who responds to Robjaro, but as you will see later, AdoptTruth is nobody else but Vanessa. Remember, she is very keen on Adoption Issues and adoptresearch@aol.com and adopttruth@aol.com are only two of the e-mails she uses when dealing with the adoption issues (see above for other e-mails). By the way, under her adoptTRUTH nickname, she has pages of comments here about the Armenian Genocide fervently debating with other readers. In short, you can see all adoptTRUTH comments on Huffington Post. She either defames (gulen) charter schools or Turkey and she explicitly supports Armenia. But beware, that user name might turn into AdoptionTruth as well at any time just like the one about Harmony Schools on Houston Chronicle article.
RRF1966 is another one I found on PBS website. At times, the very same comment is made by two different nicknames and this proves that she accidentally copied and pasted the same comment under different nicknames. For example, Marcus DiFilippio and Dr. Sacha Goldberg made the exact same comments on the same page (just write these two nicknames one by one and you will see that they both belong the same person. I guess she was in a hurry to write her lies). Anyway, when you copy a sentence from this comment and paste it on Google, you will see that the very same long comment on PBS was made in other websites in a verbatim manner as well such as on AJC under the nickname of Ex Charter Parent and on Texas Insider with the fake name of ProudAmerican. Of course, all these names are nobody other than Vanessa.
Looks like she has some ready-made comments and if the discussion goes very long, she uses those comments, but thanks to Google, same exact comments on various websites can easily be found. This proves that Vanessa has some ready-made comments/patterns that are ready to be published when things go wrong.
RRF1966 opened the doors of new findings to me. For example, in Doni Rodrik’s blog, she openly supports Mr. Rodrik, the son-in-law of Cetin Dogan, a former general that was arrested as a result of Ergenekon investigation. On “Colorado Springs Independent”, where she got subscribed only to make two comments (and never used it again), she mentions similar things, but she bites on granite there, because I had already deciphered the ignorance of her colleague! On “Democratic Underground”, she copies and pastes (literally dumps) pages of comments. Even if the news is about something else, she is brave enough to visit there, too. Recently, she has revived this nickname again only to regurgitate the same old story.
Ergenekon Connections
Another interesting alias she prefers is Ergen Kon, a clear allusion to Ergenekon Terrorist Organization. She is not shy of displaying her sympathy to this underground organization, openly praising the members of this underground network. Ergen Kon can surely be found on the PBS documentary. too. On “Republic Mainstreet”, she has the only comment (like in many instances) under an irrelevant piece of news. On “Red County”, she attacks other people with the same rhetoric. She is so in a hurry that she makes a number of spelling mistakes along with repeated words. There she says “Sweet Group” about that terrorist Ergenekon organization.
Katherine Mortelli is anothet pseudonym she uses, but I do not want to give extra links here. since you have already learned how to find out her comments through Uncle Google.
My second technique to prove that those comments are made by Vanessa Kachadurian is using some keywords, phrases or even sentences to come up with the same comments.
Comment-Based Research
For example, if you write this sentence on Google, you will find out very similar patterns: “Do your research Ex-FBI Turkish Translator Sibel Edmonds.” She sometimes uses different prepositions between the words “research” and “Ex-FBI”. Anyway, in her comments, after writing this sentence, she adds one or two more sentences in which you can find the names of Aland Mizell or Joshua Hendrick and then she puts three or four links that belong to their own Goose Network.
Now, in this pattern, you will see almost same exact comments under different nicknames and aliases. For example, using a nickname AmericanTeacher, she comments on News-Record.com. With the name Ergenekon, she has the only comment on “Unconfirmed Sources”. On Youtube, she uses her oft-used nickname Americathebrave100, while on City Data she becomes EducationTruth. By the way, AmericatheBrave is a very popular nickname Vanessa uses and as can be seen here, she almost reveals her Armenian identity in the discussion within the Paul Williams’ blog.
Sometimes she just gets rid of those amateurish nicknames and “adopts” a fancy-looking one with a “Dr.” title. Dr. Ira Goldbloom (notice the similarity with Dr. Sacha Goldberg above) is one of them. She really likes male names. On the same famous PBS website, she uses the nickname John Carson. Then she transforms into Mark Magill when she complains a would-be charter school to Hawaii government on the Rip-off Report page. Mark Stanton is another name on the Algemeiner comment page. She also occasionally utilizes female names such as Debbie Franzler (also on PBS as well) and Gaia Gul (although I am not 100% sure about the this one).
Same Comment, Different Name
Her repertoire is really immense. She enjoys using Italian names such as Vince DiAlieto and Marco DeFlippio. Notice that the former name was used on an Armenian newspaper’s webpage (What does an Italian “guy” have to do with a charter school on an Armenian newspaper? Three irrelevant things…), while the latter was used under a piece of news about a teacher who previously worked with the Harmony Charter Schools. (There was also Marcus DeFlippio under PBS news as stated above.) Interestingly, within the news where DeFlippio comments, Harmony was shown as if it was the guilty party for the misconduct of the teacher even though that teacher was not working for Harmony when he displayed that misconduct. But when your real aim becomes to defame the charter schools, you do use every means to illegitimately attack them. For example, when an accident happens in front of a charter school, she brings it to the spotlight as if that charter school is responsible for that traffic accident. By the way, those two Italian names are very identical with the first names consisting of five letters and the last names start with D and ends with O (not every Italian last name is like this).
The Magical Word: “Kaz”
Finally comes her “interrelated” nicknames that prove the connection between so-called TURGAY and Vanessa. Since in some of her comments, she directly logged in by using Turgay’s blogs, you can clearly see the link between the comments she made as a blog owner and as an individual. I will continue to use the same magical keywords (Do your research Ex-FBI Turkish Translator Sibel Edmonds).
First, let me write those related nicknames and blogs all together: KazFriend, GulenKaz, Maria Kaz, Dr. Kaz, Kazzy Kaz, Dr. Kaz Kaz, Frank Kaz, Dr. Frank Moore, Frank Morton, GooseNetworkUSA, Gulen is a Fraud… (BTW, I found out that “kaz” means GOOSE in Turkish. Bingo!)
GulenKaz was used by Turgay in this comment. Turgay’s e-mail (gulenfraud@gmail.com) appears here. At the end of the comment, like the others above, she gives the list of her blogs. Maria Kaz appears here with the same comment. Kazzy Kaz and Frank Morton (and even American Teacher and CarolineSF) can be seen on the same page. Dr. Kaz looks at us exactly here. It is noteworthy that most of the time Vanessa is the person commenting under the same news, but poor innocent readers don’t know anything about this simple trick and they probably think that they read different comments from different looking people. Even when she becomes Dr. Frank Moore…
Anyway, she transforms into Frank Kaz here and here and we see Turgay’s profile under this comment. Her Twitter account with a Turkish-looking name Ozgur Cengiz along with the picture (a goose biting someone’s back) can be seen in this profile. Interestingly, she feels the need in her Twitter profile to state that she lives in Turkey and she says that “I am a Kemalist and Turkey is my home”. But she can’t speak Turkish at all. Just check those successive comments. She starts with Turkish-looking name Ozgur Cengiz. Then someone replies Ozgur Cengiz highly probably in Turkish. Suddenly she changes her nickname and becomes Marie Lewis. Throughout the conversation Ozgur Cengiz disappears and never appears again and Marie Lewis is the one who provides all the responses. Later in that discussion she accuses other people of adopting American names despite being Turkish. Isn’t it actually what Vanessa doing? Disguising herself in a Turkish name and never speaking Turkish and then accusing those English-speaking people of being Turks and telling them that they need to leave America as soon as possible… Just ridiculous…
(She shamelessly follows my Twitter account, too.)
The comment under the nickname of GooseNetworkUSA is here. Interestingly, one of the people Ozgur Cengiz (a.k.a. Vanessa) follows on Twitter is Genise Harrison, a serious activist about human trafficiking, a subject Vanessa is fond of.
Laurene Peymand
This name belongs to Vanessa and there is even a Facebook page with this name. Her friends are Bill Thacker, West Texas Patriots, Tim Stellar and Robert Spencer, who was cited a couple of hundred times by the Norwegian terrorist Breivik. By the way, this link clearly proves that Lauren is Vanessa just like “Lauren Alexander” (see above). On a Facebook page, she writes something Turkish. I really wondered if she got any help from Google Translate and I came up with this English translation:
Lie, Clinton, smiling Lie. Smiling is worth $ 25000000000 and the owner of all things, even if you watch the news. Smiling fake, just a 5 There are in-class instruction. No college education. Smiling from Ezereum is Kurdish. Gülen hides in Amercia.
Probably she used Google Translate to write in Turkish (just like I did) and her broken (actually non-existent Turkish) can be seen in this English translation.
SalesA1@aol.com
This is one of Vanessa’s frequently used e-mails (also mentioned in the lawsuit file above) although she does only use it for Armenia and adoption-related issues. But humans err, so Vanessa errs as well. For example on this link, she used SalesA1@aol.com as a user name and she gives her favorite Charter Schools Watchdog website as a link at the bottom of her very long comment.
I also have to admit that in my previous article, borrowed from another website, the nicknames that were attributed to Mary of Ohio mostly belong to Vanessa Kachadurian. I think Ohio parents are wrong about the source of some nicknames.
DancerA1@aol.com
She uses this e-mail to insult some Turks on the web.
Meanwhile I sent an e-mail to the officials of some schools Vanessa attacks if any negative comments came to them from Fresno, California. They said they cannot disclose any user name or IP number. But if any negative comment exists, I believe some of them must belong to Vanessa.
Why Does She Attack?
So, here is the final question: Why does she attack those successful schools then? Why does she write so many comments, operate a lot of blogs and attacks people and schools that have nothing to do with Vanessa? Here are my answers:
1) She is from Armenia. She probably can’t stand seeing any Turks in America let alone seeing them working in public schools. She lives in California, where there is a considerable Armenian population and I have found out that recently Turks have organized a cultural festival in California. Some Armenians protested this event, while some of them visited and cried there, because reportedly some elderly Armenians remembered their childhood when they saw the Turkish artifacts and the sound of the call to prayer. I don’t know much about this genocide issue, but an Armenian’s resentment towards Turkish-Americans is no weird.
2) She is probably in contact with someone else (probably from Turkey) who has deep grudge and hatred towards some Turks. Being part of Ergenekon terrorist network, those people are targeting some Muslim Turks outside Turkey and their relationship with some Armenians or certain xenophobic Americans are in good terms. You may wonder if the targeting Turks are Muslim or not and I don’t know the answer of this question, but it has been revealed that some members of the Ergenekon terrorist organization belong to Autocephalous Turkish Orthodox Patriarchate which is an unrecognized Orthodox Christian denomination. Since 99% of the Armenians are Orthodox Christians (at least in Armenia), it is natural for Vanessa to explicitly support the members of Ergenekon terrorist organization.
3) Vanessa, as seen on her Facebook page, during an Armenian Genocide commemoration event, gives a book to Daron McDaniel, assistant for Congressman Jeff Denham, about Gulen Movement written by Aland Mizell. Remember this name? It was one of the key words that I used when searching for Vanessa. What is the relevance between an event about the Armenian Genocide and a book about the Gulen Movement? If there is Vanessa there, we can always talk about some relationship.
4) Vanessa, as stated above, is dealing with a lawsuit right now. She desperately needs money just like Paul Williams who founded a defense fund in his name after making ridiculous claims about McMaster University. This cyber-smearing of charter schools is a good opportunity for her to get extra funding. Maybe she gets her funding from the taxpayers. Remember, I deciphered the financial connections of Goose Network members last year and Vanessa could be one of the beneficiaries.
Conclusion
Vanessa. in the light of all evidence, is working for someone else. But she is just a cat’s paw, because there must be a bigger group or entity operating behind her to provide the much-needed money. This group could either be Ergenekon or those whose names have recently been exposed by Center for American Progress to national media in this report. Since she does not have an office work, she spends all her time on her 15 blogs, Facebook and Twitter accounts as well as comments she makes under different nicknames. She hates Turks and therefore she hates some charter schools (which she calls Gulen Charter Schools) where there are some Turks. Now that the truth behind the funny picture above has been revealed, you will remember my article when you see this funny picture.
What to expect next from Vanessa? Of course, after revealing so much evidence and making the things crystal clear, I don’t expect her to deny this. It would be like denying the law of gravity. But, she might make a counter-attack. But I really wonder whom she will be attacking, because I am not attacking and defaming innocent people or top-performing charter schools. She might attempt to delete some of her blogs and comments, if possible.
She will also have to generate a series of brand-new nicknames, aliases and pseudonyms now that I have already deciphered most of them. Or, she will take this as a matter of pride and continue to use the same false names. We will see. Of course, one thing is clear: She will probably label me as a Turk, because this is what she does on the internet as if those charter schools do not have thousands of proud American parents. Meanwhile, if you have more information about Vanessa, feel free to share with me.
From now on, I will closely Vanessa’s activities, comments and her other actions. Now, I am relieved to fulfill my promise to decipher the Goose Network members.
If you happen to see an article written about those schools (infamously called Gulen Charter Schools), take a look at the comments under that article. There, you will see the usual suspect ready to hatch her Goose eggs: Vanessa Kachadurian.
Please, beware of her.
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Mary’s Story (A Former Gulen Charter School (!) Teacher)
Here is one of the “prominent” members of Goose Network.
This is going to sound like we are telling a fairy tale. This one is however, is based on a true story. It’s the true and just account of Mary, a former Gulen charter school(?) employee. Mary was a teacher at Horizon Toledo, one of the Concept managed schools (Gulen charter school(?). She used to call it a Concept school at the time, but interestingly enough she is now calling all the Concept managed schools “Gulen charter school(s), and Gulen-inspired schools.”
Mary was a “responsible” teacher at Horizon SA, and she felt she was responsible for the success of other schools, too. Thus, she decided to work part-time in another place, while she was a full-time teacher at Horizon, one of the Gulen charter schools(?). She probably did not want to conceal her super teaching abilities from the American public, so she wanted to work in multiple places concurrently. Apparently, she did it for “free” because she was so concerned about the education of American kids as a responsible educator. Somehow, the Horizon administration became aware of her illegal acts, and hired a lawyer to denote it. After this she was fired on account of her breaking the conditions of her contract with Horizon S.A, what she calls a Gulen charter schools.
In the meantime, her heart seemed to beat for a teacher from Turkey. The lovers were colleagues in fact, working in the same place. But the boy had a serious problem. He was an international teacher and had some Visa problems. The only remedy for him was to obtain a Green Card to stay in the US. Guess what happened? They decided to marry. For what? Simply put, to get a Green Card for the boy. Like every other “legendary” love in history, this one also ended abruptly. Once the Green Card application was denied, their love also faded away.
When Mary had to find a new job, she got it from a mysterious company. Her new job was to attack Concept managed schools, or the so-called Gulen charter schools! She is so eagerly attacking, that one thinks that she is very satisfied with her new salary. She has opened web pages, blogs, and comments on different articles on the internet. But, she needed a fake ID to hide herself in these comments. She penned a number of texts and put them in the comment section of the articles with different names and nicknames. What an imagination! When you look at the names she picked, one cannot prevent themselves to appreciate the richness of her imagination. Sometimes she becomes a man and sometimes a woman. She is sometimes Turkish, and sometimes American, Greek, French, and even Mexican. Let’s see those names:
Constantine Petropulos, Lillian Moore, Steve Moore, Frank Fontaine, Marie Lewis, Frank Monroe, Ann Whitefield, Clara Montell, Marie, Mark Morales, Frank Moore, Steve Winston, Lisa Monroe, Mark Bears, Lisa Martell, Joe, MsMarie, Sonia, Frank Bradshaw, John De Sala, Bob Martin, George Matthews, Lisa Van Fleet, Mark Munoz, Steve Garth, SteveFranklin, Robert Moore, Marie Erbil, Gina Craven, Elif Oz, and it continues. [We apologize from the the true owners of these names.] -
I was Dead Right!
Dear Goose Network Members,
How are you today? I am alright. I haven’t felt so good for a long time. Why? Let me cut to the chase!
A few days ago, a report appeared in many websites. At first I didn’t pay attention much, but later on it created a small-scaled earthquake in some blogs. The report was about those who were constantly pumping Islamophobia and related issues. Naturally, I felt I had to go through that report, because there were some people among those instigators that belonged to Goose Network.
Bingo! A point came that proved my stance about the finances of the Goose Network. Let’s remember first what I said in that article:
Online advertisements: Below you clearly see that Meforum (Middle East Forum) currently runs 329 different ads on Google. As webmasters say, on average one spends at least $500-600 per month for an ad. Multiply 500 by 329 and you get $164,500 per month !! Even if you say they spend $100 per add, it ends up to $32,900 per month! Whatever the real number is, it raises concerns of why someone would spend this much on racist and hate oriented ads.
Online ads against Fethullah Gulen from Meforum. Click here to see all their ads.
As I have explained earlier, Meforum is the mother-ship website for the vicious bloggers of Goose Network. Those bloggers spread MEforum’s links all over the web creating havoc in the cyberspace.…………..
I was sure that Middle East Forum (MEF) was being paid by some “generous people”. It turned out that MEF got close to six million dollars. For what cause? To propagate fear and hate of Islam to the public.
Who were their close allies? The self-titled “mighty” Goose Network members. You know their names very well.
What did those Geese do? In return of the money they got paid, they coined new expressions like Gulen Charter Schools and with that in mind (also in their bag and wallet) they started attacking high performing charter schools throughout the nation. They launched quasi-blogs, amateur websites just for the sake of the Benjamin Franklins!
Anyway, to make long story short, this latest report obviously proves that I was dead right back in November 2010!
I am still right.
Hey folks, you have been goosed!
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Donna Garner’s Self-Refuting Ideas
If you happen to read Donna Garner on a regular basis, you can easily reveal her self-refuting ideas. This is what I have been enjoying for a while. I have found so many contradictions in her statements and claims that I think I could, one day, write a thin book about those hilarious contradictions and self-refuting ideas.
You have probably heard about the contention between Arne Duncan, the Secretary of Education and Robert Scott, TEA Commissioner. Mr. Duncan made a few negative comments about Texas education and Mr. Scott rightfully responded to those claims. Donna Garner quoted Scott’s response verbatim in her blog (August 19). At one point of his response, Robert Scott mentioned the existence and significance of STEM education in Texas:“We are also a leader in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) education. Texas has established 59 STEM schools, 7 STEM professional development centers and is a leading state in creating a national STEM network of states that want to pursue STEM education reform.”
Let me interfere here: did you know that out of those 59 STEM schools, 17 of them are Harmony Schools? Harmony Public Schools are the pioneering schools in STEM education with the most number of schools in the state of Texas. Why did I mention Harmony Schools? Because they are the number one target of Donna Garner these days even though I suspect if she has ever been to any Harmony Science Academy in her life. Oops, sorry, she never calls these schools with their proper names. She does rather prefer the weird term Gulen Charter Schools. Which “Gulen” Charter Schools? Those who supposedly indoctrinate “harmful” ideas to the kids have become the leaders of STEM education… Overnight?
Two days later (August 21), Donna Garner wrote about Republican candidate Rick Perry mentioning Governor Perry’s “good” and “bad” points. There was something among the “bad” points. Guess what? Harmony Public Schools!“Here in Texas we have 36 Gulen/Cosmos Foundation/Harmony Charter Schools, yet where has Gov. Perry been on this issue?”
Did you read out the question? I can’t believe my eyes. Two days earlier, Garner exactly copied Robert Scott’s defense where he mentioned the importance of STEM education. In his response, Mr. Scott was actually defending Rick Perry as well, because Gov. Perry, not Robert Scott himself, was the real target of Mr. Duncan when Mr. Duncan uttered those statements.
Two days swiftly passed and Donna Garner started accusing Rick Perry of “harboring36 Gulen/Cosmos Foundation/Harmony Charter Schools.” Hey Donna, you should pray that Robert Scott will not read what you have written about Gov. Perry. Otherwise he would be mad at you.
If STEM education suits Donna Garner’s book, she is not shy of using it despite the fact that Harmony Schools are the best representatives of STEM education.
If not, Donna Garner would be “brave” enough to accuse Gov. Perry of supporting Gulen Charter Schools.
Isn’t it hilarious? I am really having fun of it. You should, too.
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DONNA GARNER’S LATEST FLOP
These days I am very sluggish, because I have been copying from Dr. Kurt. He is doing such an amazing job that I do not need to chase the geese. He has absolutely turned into a skillful goose hunter. Keep up the good work Doc!
In my last article, I said “This will be the last article (for now) on Donna Garner.” Fortunately, I had put the words “for now”, because she has lately written the worst article ever she could write on current Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Muslim scholar Fethullah Gulen, whose name is arbitrarily used within the newly-coined concept of Gulen Charter Schools.
Embellished with so-called fact and figures, this article, entitled “Gulen-Led Coup: Turkey Falls to Islamists”, is one of the most biased, prejudiced and misinformed articles I have ever read about Mr. Erdogan and Mr. Gulen. Since the number of experts on Turkey is very scarce here in the US, those articles, like the previous ones by Donna Garner, don’t generate the rightful reaction it should, because most people are not even aware of the wrong information within these articles. The number of mistakes in this latest article far exceeds the ones in Garner’s previous articles. Despite citing several sources, Garner’s some of claims cannot be found in these sources. It seems to me that Garner has made certain deductions out of some sources, but what is going on inside her mind is a mystery, because to come up with such conclusions out of those sources require a different sort of processing in the brain!To make long story short, let’s begin our journey on a claim-answer format (my favorite) as usual:
Claim: Erdogan’s own choice for commander has now been put in charge of the Turkish military.
Answer: I do not think that Garner knows any of the Turkish military practice or tradition. Established practices in Turkish military have been in use for a long time. For example, it is widely known that the prospective commanders in the army have already been determined until 2020 which means that Erdogan cannot put someone that he wishes. Besides, even in this situation, many journalists and columnists are saying that there are newly promoted commanders that Erdogan is not on good terms with. If a general stands on line, he will not let his soon-to-be promotion captured by another general.
Claim: Turkey’s ruling party is the AKP led by Prime Minister Erdogan. He is a Muslim, believes in Sharia law… Erdogan was elected in 2003 and was recently re-elected in June 2011 because working in clandestine operations with the Gulenists, he has been able to control and coerce the Turkish masses through fear.
Answer: There are zillion points that I need to make on this funny claim. Let me put in a subtle way by dissecting her sentences:
- He (Erdogan) is a Muslim, believes in Sharia law.
- Being a Muslim means believing in Sharia law, right? Can we make a generalization here? Do all Muslims believe in Sharia? Are belief in Sharia (or appreciating it) and its adoption as a regime within a specific country the same things? Of course not. They are different from each other, like apples and oranges. A Muslim can still lead a religious life without observing Sharia in the sense of a regime. As for Erdogan, he is a pro-EU (European Union) person and his party (AKP) has made the most reforms en route to the EU. Does a follower of Sharia make such reforms in order to make his country join the EU? Garner becomes funnier day by day.
- …Erdogan was elected in 2003 and was recently re-elected in June 2011…
- Donna Garner skips an election here. Erdogan was re-elected in 2007 with more popular vote than in 2003. 2011 election marks Erdogan’s third term in the Office. Moreover, when his party came to power in 2003, Erdogan was not a Member of Parliament (MP) because of the legal punishment he received in 1999. Upon the agreement of the main opposition party, Erdogan was subsequently nominated as a candidate and then he was elected as an MP in a mini-election that was hold in one city.
- [B]ecause working in clandestine operations with the Gulenists, he (Erdogan) has been able to control and coerce the Turkish masses through fear.
- This is the funniest but at the same time the most ignorant one by Donna Garner, who claims that Erdogan was re-elected because he had been able to control and coerce the Turkish society! That is pretty ridiculous, because Garner gives the readers the impression that Erdogan and his party (AKP) wins the elections through oppressing the masses as though there was no democracy and free elections in Turkey at all. Erdogan won the last election in a landslide with almost 50% of the popular votes. Unlike the United States where there are two major political parties, there were three major and 12 minor political parties and plus the independent candidates in the election. Moreover, the turnout of voting-age population in this Turkish election was 83%. In the latest US election in 2008, the US average of the turnout of voting-age population was merely 56.8%. Texas, where Donna Garner lives, was the lowest-participating state, not named Hawai (45.8%), in this 2008 election in which Obama was elected as the President of the United States. Garner absolutely does not know anything about the election stats as well as the nature of the elections in Turkey. She tries to make everyone assume that Turkey is under the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein-like man.
On the other hand Turkish election system is based on secret ballot and open counting. How can you enforce someone to vote for the current government in this system? If there were to be such coercive action, AKP should have received at least 80% of the votes. When you arrive at a poll, there are people from all major political parties including a presiding officer. When the voting is over, the ballots are counted under the supervision of all representatives of the political parties.
As an expert on Turkey, I can confidently claim that Turkish democracy is experiencing its heyday after a long period of military interventions and coups that obstructed the development of democracy in the country.Claim: Now Gulen/AKP/Erdogan have formed close alliances with Russia, Iran, Hamas, Hazbollah, and Syria.
Answer: I really need to learn about the source Ms. Garner used for this claim. She just lists the countries that have some problems with the US, Europe and Israel and she accuses Turkey of having close connections with those countries. Again she shows the glimpses of her ignorance, because everyone knows that Iran and Turkey are not in good terms right now. Besides, Turkey has bought a great amount of military equipment from Israel including some tanks. Despite the tension during the Flotilla, Turkey has never stopped her commercial and military relations with the US or Israel.
Claim: Under Erdogan, textbooks have been changed, Islam has been emphasized, and thousands of imams have been placed into positions as teachers and administrators in the schools.
Answer: The content of the textbooks have not been changed. But there is one real difference under Erdogan administration: since Erdogan came to power, all textbooks have been given free in elementary, middle and high schools in Turkey. In the last eight years, Turkish public school students have been enjoying the luxury of free textbook, a new practice in the history of Turkish Republic. Turkey also provided 24,000 free textbooks to Armenia. There is no indication of emphasis on Islam within those textbooks. Garner goes further by claiming that thousands of imams have become teachers! If imams are teachers, then who else is leading the prayers in the mosques? The appointments of the teachers are done in a computer-automated system where the names of the prospective teachers are randomly selected in a huge pool of names. An imam with a diploma of religious school is not allowed to become a teacher, let alone being an admin, unless he graduates from the department of education at another four year college. Same rule goes with the police as well. You cannot show any imam in a police uniform, as Garner alleged, in Turkey unless he graduates from the police academy which is open to all professions as long as you are successful in their tests. Claim: During the two years leading up to last Thursday, Erdogan and his AKP party have put over 400 people on trial in hearings dominated by Erdogan-appointed judges, including 250 military personnel (almost 10% of their military senior commanders).
Answer: Erdogan-appointed judges? First please give me the answer of this question Ms. Garner: What is the percentage of Erdogan-appointed judges in the judiciary system? Is Erdogan the person who is in charge of the appointment of the judges? Please find the answers of these questions before coming up with any weird claims.
As for the arrested people, they were arrested because they were charged with serious crimes such as making plans to overthrow the current government, creating havoc in the country, deteriorating the relationships with Greece by crashing Turkish planes with the Greek ones and bombing a private museum at a time visited with school kids. Until now, the army generals have been the “untouchables” in Turkey. Therefore it is of vital importance to bring those people before the courts if they are guilty. If there were no crime at all perpetrated by these people, it would take real courage to put forward such indictments and arrest all these top-rank generals. Recently, we have been hearing some confessions from the top-rank military officials as well regarding the true nature of the claims.
Claim: Erdogan is a follower of Gulen.
Answer: In Turkey, almost everyone knows that Erdogan and Gulen come from different backgrounds. While the former played soccer in his youth and engaged in politics, the latter had a career as a preacher and imam and he had no political engagement whatsoever. Fethullah Gulen is respected by various people all coming from different walks of life. People, regardless of their political view and ideology, regard Gulen as a respected and influential person. Among his visitors in the US, you can count Turkish journalists, politicians, singers and TV celebrities with different worldviews. Erdogan, likewise, could feel respect to Gulen or he could also be esteemed by Gulen, but this never proves any connection.
People who admire Gulen could vote either for Erdogan’s party or any other party they wish, since half of the voters voted for Erdogan and his party. Yet this does not mean that half of Turkey is Gulenist.
Claim: In 2008 Endogan ordered the arrests of the people who were speaking out against this Gulen takeover.
Answer: First of all, the spelling mistake in the claim belongs to Donna Garner, who can’t even spell Erdogan’s name. In another paragraph, she spells Erdogan’s name as Enrogan. These three different spellings of Turkish Prime Minister’s name prove that Donna Garner was in a hurry when she began writing her article. She is pretty careless. I am not sure how we could seriously listen to the words of someone who can’t even spell a country’s prime minister.There is a very nice article about the imprisonment of those who allegedly made bad propaganda about Gulen. The article states that there are almost 30 negative books about Fethullah Gulen, but almost all their authors are not behind the bars at all. Here is the most striking excerpt from the article:One of the most suitable people to satisfactorily answer this question is Ismail Arli, owner of Togan Publishing since 2003. Arli […] published a number of anti-Gulen titles. […] We asked Arli: “You are probably the one person to have ‘touched’ Gulen the most. What happened to you?” He has already responded, remarking: “If whoever touches him is screwed, it should have been me who would have gotten screwed first; I should have been in ashes by now because I have published the harshest material against Gulen. I have published the most derogatory books against him. Even the Cumhuriyet Publishing House is inspired by my cover designs. Nothing has happened to me so far.”
I guess Mr. Arli’s answer speaks itself. I do not need to add anything else.
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In Donna Garner’s article, a number of claims also exist about Fethullah Gulen most of which are something prepared specifically for the “Western audience”. I especially emphasize the expression “Western audience”, since Turkish audience would not believe those claims. In order to defame Gulen in Turkey, a different language is used. For example, Gulen is depicted as a man of America in Turkey, because nobody in Turkey would believe the slander that Gulen is fundamentalist and jihadist. Yet it is a perfect fit for the US audience. Let me present a couple of hilarious claims about Fethullah Gulen by Donna Garner:
Claim: Gulen has groomed his image to make him look as if he is a “tolerant” Muslim, but he is actually a follower of Sa’id-i Nursi, the founder of the Islamist Nur (light) movement.
Answer: Upon reading this claim, any person who does not know anything about Nursi or Gulen would think that Nursi represents the “intolerant” wing of Islam. However, all Sociologists accept that Nursi is known for his non-violent approach. Neither Nursi nor his followers have ever taken up arms or killed someone. Having spent more than two decades in the prisons, Nursi can be likened to Gandhi in terms of staying away from the violence and preferring the peaceful means. Fethullah Gulen, likewise, follows a similar way. There is no report of violent incident or act perpetrated by Gulen’s followers. On the other hand, when listing the intellectuals being influential on him, Gulen mentions a number of them including Nursi. That means Nursi is only one of the persons who had a lasting effect on Gulen.
Claim: Now the United States has a Muslim-friendly President in the White House who has appointed Dalia Mogahed as his Muslim advisor. Mogahed is a Gulenist
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Answer: What is your proof Ms. Garner regarding Mogahed’s being Gulenist? I really dont know how to answer such a baseless claim made in a helter-skelter manner. It looks like the mindset of people who are attacking Gulen is almost similar. Did not Peggy Littleton claim similar things about Obama Administration being described as Gulenist?! Please read the link if you have not tired of laughing at these silly allegations.Claim: Gulen lives in eastern Pennsylvania with 100 followers who guard him and tend to his needs. His male followers try to blend into American society by wearing suits and ties, and they do not marry until age 50. Their spouses are expected to dress in the Islamic manner as dictated by Gulen.
Answer: The first part of the claim dates back to Paul Williams whose website (The Last Crusade) has mysteriously gone. I think he is busy with the lawsuit McMaster University filed against him. Actually Paul Williams, in his former website, refuted his own claim by publishing a video that talks about the untrue nature of Williams’ claims. There were no gunshots coming from Gulen’s residence. The local Pocono Record investigated the issue and published an unbiased article and consequently refuting what Williams and Garner claim. The neighbors also stated that they heard no gunfire or something similar. One neighbor named Hilda was even saying “They are very lovely people”.
Let us continue with the rest of the claim. Garner says Gulen’s male followers blend into American society with ties and suits. Do they wear something different when they are with Gulen? Pocono Record’s story does not say so. Not getting married until 50 is totally bizarre and absurd. It is untrue for Gulen’s male follower not to get married until 50. Let alone the whole community, Garner cannot show one single example of a follower who has not married until he is 50.
As for the spouses’ dress issue, this is again nothing but distorting the facts. If a lady prefers Islamic clothing, she does this to follow God’s order on this, not what Gulen allegedly “dictates”.
She also depicts Nurettin Veren as someone who is “next-in-command”, but Garner forgets the fact that Veren is now one of the most ferocious attackers of Gulen. He has anti-propaganda books on Gulen, but Garner cites Veren as if he is the right hand of Gulen.
I will not go into the details of Garner’s usual accusations of Harmony Public Schools (Harmony Science Academy) of Gulen Charter School, because in my previous four articles, I answered Garner’s fallacious claims, but looks like she keeps beating the same drum.……………
There are more things to say about Donna Garner and her baseless and unfounded allegations which qualifies for nothing but a series of flops. But, I do not have such spare time. These examples should suffice to state that Donna Garner now singlehandedly takes the sole lead to write inflammatory, biased, misinformed and unfounded pieces about Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Fethullah Gulen and her other favorite concepts such as Gulen Charter Schools. I was calling Garner a sciolist, a mild term, in my previous descriptions, yet she is making a fast transition to being a charlatan.
I have the gut feeling that Garner writes those pieces just because she has been told to do so. Otherwise nobody would dare to write such fallacious things and draw such faulty conclusions at the expense of tarnishing your own reputation.
What I am curious about is that she sends letters with those lies, misinformation and unfounded allegations to elected officials. Are the officials taking her seriously? If so, they should think twice before doing that especially after my refutations about her claims and assumptions. If an elected official impetuously acts on the basis of what s/he hears from Ms. Garner, s/he should feel the burden of that hasty decision on his/her conscience.
Donna Garner should feel the same thing in her conscience. If she has any… -
Donna Garner: A True Sciolist - 4
This completes Donna Garner quartet. All I can say is Dr. Kurt has done a wonderful job by exposing one of the top Goose Network members. Congrats!..
This will be the last article (for now) on Donna Garner. I have been getting nice feedback on previous articles and I am glad that a number of websites quote from my article.
I designed these articles in Claim&Answer format so that I could reveal Garner’s wrong points and fallacies easily. Honestly, I found a number of points that prove why Garner is wrong, but I did not want to deal with each and every fallacious argument, because there were so many!
I will continue to write on these people like Donna Garner, since there are plenty of them who unscrupulously attack on some charter schools and putting them foolish labels such as “Gulen Charter Schools”. Most of those attackers are not aware of the fact that the claims and allegations they made are entirely “null and void”. Talking to the parents and students, I gathered invaluable data on these so-called Gulen Charter Schools and parents aptly state that there is no religious agenda at those schools. This issue deserves another article; therefore, I leave the floor open for subsequent articles.
I will answer two more claims:
Claim: Waco Harmony Science Academy students, in a celebration in Indian Springs Park, trampled the United States flag (taken from Garner’s talk on City on a Hill radio show, dated April 27, 2011).
Answer: When I first heard this claim, I was really surprised, because it was a serious claim that should be taken in due care. Since Garner resides in Waco, she makes the story more convincing. But the “truth has a bad habit of revealing itself one day.”
Donna Garner had a couple of mistakes here: first of all, instead of putting such a bold claim and puzzling everyone in the radio show, she should have asked Waco Harmony Science Academy administrators/students/parents if such an incident took place.
I did what Donna Garner forgot to do. I found Waco school’s phone number and asked Mr. Kose (Principal) if there was such a thing. He told me that that festival or celebration took place last year, yet Garner presented the incident as if it happened yesterday. On the other hand, there was no such an incident as Garner alleged. Rather, the students carried American flag on their head let alone trampling it.
Principal’s explanation seemed logical to me, because if such a vehement event had occured, the public would have heard about it after several angry parents or any other spectators had reported this incident finally hitting the local papers’ headlines. Since we heard nothing about it, then we conceive that Garner is doing nothing but manipulation and distortion of events.
Claim: “Gulen Charter Schools” are trying to bring sharia laws to the United States (taken from Garner’s same talk on City on a Hill radio show, dated April 27, 2011)..
Answer: Actually, this claim is the reason why some people never take Donna Garner and similar people seriously, because they do not present any solid claim that could make us say “A-ha”. On hearing such an allegation, one would only laugh at that and appreciate the sense of humor those people possess.
In the same vein, Peggy Littleton said something similar in nature a few months ago: “I believe — and this is just my own personal opinion, without any factual data to back it up — one of the only reasons the Obama administration is willing to stand in the face of teachers’ unions … by making states adopt charter school rules … I think that he’s doing that because of these Gulen schools. The Gulen schools are the Muslim schools in our country … telling the kids of the United States of America, ‘Hate Americans’ and the whole rest…”
There are so many fallacious presuppositions that one really wonders if it is really possible to give a proper answer to that. It is like trying to operate on someone who has had a tragic accident. We are not sure if we can save the patient after all.
As for Garner, she is just whistling in the dark, having no idea of what she is really talking about. Such a claim deserves a sarcastic tone such as “Oh, really? The I must tell the White House, the Army and all other government entities that America is facing the danger of adopting sharia law (!) Oh, wait a minute, this would be useless, since our President is already Muslim!”
Is this what you want Ms. Garner? As a scholar, I do not think that sarcasm would do good to you, but in the face of such ridiculous allegations, one cannot help but produce sarcasm.
Enough said. I guess the best way is to direct our attention to parents and students who are essential part of those schools and at the end of the day what matters will be what those people say and think rather than the baseless allegations of unscrupulous attackers like Donna Garner or Peggy Littleton.
Of course without the absurd label of Gulen Charter Schools…
